I've decided to let the roaddeaths.net / roaddeaths.ie project go. I've just been to busy to keep the site up to date. Anyone interested?
1 year, 9 months ago.
26 comments so far
A collaborative google maps version of RoadDeaths.ie is more than welcome to a (second) home on OurMaps.ie. IMHO it will be much easier for a large group of collaborators to keep alive than an individual or small group.
I've set it to open collaboration btw,.. thoughts? Is it too 'sensitive' a map to be set to open? I'll wait for feedback before announcing it on OurMaps.ie
It would be ideal to have a collaborator or two for each province (if not county) so if people could help spread the word that would be great.
@willknot AFAIK Google Earth now supports "time maps" via KML.... but I haven't really explored it. Will King of OpenGeo.net, who was a massive help in getting the wifi maps up and going, is coming to 3Dcamp in Limerick and I'll ask him if he could show us how to do this. Would make for a nice workshop IMHO.
@eirepreneur
That's excellent, man those maps still makes me shudder, considering I started mid way through '06 and stopped mid way through '07, there would be a lot more marks on them.
I think open collaboration is good because I often found it difficult to pin down the location and had to enlist the help of visitors to the site.
The best way to get the information is to email the Garda Press Release Office and ask to be included on their mailing list. Contributors with local knowledge can use the information in the press release to put the info on the map.
Good idea @johnnypez, I'll do that now. I might as well go ahead and add it to OurMaps.ie too I suppose. BTW are you keeping the existing domains live?
@eirepreneur
I think I'm going to let roaddeaths.net slide as Joe Drumgoole kindly donated Roaddeaths.ie back in 2006 and has been keeping that domain alive til now. I could ask him to redirect it to OurMaps.ie?
Hey Johnny - can't find your email on your blog. Can you drop me a mail? robin@bytesurgery.com just want to touch base over some roaddeaths.ie bits ;-)
Jesus, it's not until you're on the Gardai's mailing list that it really hits home - two fatality reports already :( I really need local help one though - can anyone pinpoint Corngrass, Conna, Mallow, Co. Cork?
Actually I wonder what's the best way to solicit local knowledge? Are there Twitterers for every county in Ireland at this stage? Would people follow to a sombre @roaddeaths account?
@eirepreneur
Yeah it's pretty depressing when you get those mails every day for over a year. I found maporama.com to be a good starting point if you can't solicit local knowledge.
I know roaddeaths stream may be sombre but it would quickly show people how often people die. You saw yourself today when those emails start arriving.
I was wondering if you can slice and dice the data/analyse? Deaths at noon vs 4am. deaths at an equal time lapse between a certain point (did changes to road do anything).
Well the two Garda Press Office emails I've received thus far do give times Will so some basic analysis will be possible for sure. But I don't think I'll be getting much information about road changes or conditions though.
BTW the @roaddeaths account has now been setup on Twitter and I'm hoping it will get a volunteer follower per county to help pinpoint local accidents.
I've included the time in each description in the KML files, those times are the time of the incident as reported by the Gardai. So it should be possible to break them down.
I used a time window of 4 days and slowed the animation right down. Watch how the days leading up to Paddy's weekend are relatively quiet and then the yellow tags splatter (sorry, but that's the only word for it) the page around the 17th. Very sad.
26 comments so far
A collaborative google maps version of RoadDeaths.ie is more than welcome to a (second) home on OurMaps.ie. IMHO it will be much easier for a large group of collaborators to keep alive than an individual or small group.
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@eirepreneur, If anyone wants to port that data over that's fine with me.
I'd love to see the Garda press release office take over the site though. I've had no luck getting any reponse on that though.
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
@johnnypez can you point me to or provide a KML file for the existing data? Or can you otherwise export it?
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@eirepreneur, I'll look up the kml standard and see if I can generate one.
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
@eirepreneur I've generated some kml data from what I've got in Wordpress at the moment. You want to give it a try? http://www.roaddeaths.net/kml.php?do=year&year=2006 http://www.roaddeaths.net/kml.php?do=year&year=2007
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
In map form, are there any concentrations or is it all spread evenly? Is it possible to make "time maps" in order to leave concentrations stand out?
1 year, 9 months ago by WillKnott
Thanks @johnnypez, I've imported those two KMLs to two new Google MyMaps for archival -
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112855554048460880778.00044bef2119f5360359a&ll=53.375,-8.165&spn=5.336428,12.128906&z=6 http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112855554048460880778.00044bef127d07b9b2bbf&ll=53.375,-8.165&spn=5.336428,12.128906&z=6
And I've started a new collaborative map for 2008 -
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid= 112855554048460880778.00044bef36e741a0f8968
I've set it to open collaboration btw,.. thoughts? Is it too 'sensitive' a map to be set to open? I'll wait for feedback before announcing it on OurMaps.ie
It would be ideal to have a collaborator or two for each province (if not county) so if people could help spread the word that would be great.
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@willknott Have you seen the maps that are up there? There definitely are roads and areas that show a high concentration of incidents. http://www.roaddeaths.ie/map.php?do=year&year=2006
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
Dammit, Jaiku broke the link. The collaboration URL for the 2008 map is - http://tinyurl.com/5bd5ew
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@willknot AFAIK Google Earth now supports "time maps" via KML.... but I haven't really explored it. Will King of OpenGeo.net, who was a massive help in getting the wifi maps up and going, is coming to 3Dcamp in Limerick and I'll ask him if he could show us how to do this. Would make for a nice workshop IMHO.
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@eirepreneur That's excellent, man those maps still makes me shudder, considering I started mid way through '06 and stopped mid way through '07, there would be a lot more marks on them.
I think open collaboration is good because I often found it difficult to pin down the location and had to enlist the help of visitors to the site.
The best way to get the information is to email the Garda Press Release Office and ask to be included on their mailing list. Contributors with local knowledge can use the information in the press release to put the info on the map.
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
Good idea @johnnypez, I'll do that now. I might as well go ahead and add it to OurMaps.ie too I suppose. BTW are you keeping the existing domains live?
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@eirepreneur I think I'm going to let roaddeaths.net slide as Joe Drumgoole kindly donated Roaddeaths.ie back in 2006 and has been keeping that domain alive til now. I could ask him to redirect it to OurMaps.ie?
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
If you can John, please. Or perhaps directly to - http://ourmaps.wordpress.com/road-deaths/
Any feedback/correction/suggestions greatly appreciated.
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@eirepreneur I've emailed Joe and asked him if he would kindly set up a redirect to that url.
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
That change for Roaddeaths.ie is underway.
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
Delighted to see the project is going to get to continue in some form :)
1 year, 9 months ago by kenmcguire
Hey Johnny - can't find your email on your blog. Can you drop me a mail? robin@bytesurgery.com just want to touch base over some roaddeaths.ie bits ;-)
1 year, 9 months ago by rgb
Jesus, it's not until you're on the Gardai's mailing list that it really hits home - two fatality reports already :( I really need local help one though - can anyone pinpoint Corngrass, Conna, Mallow, Co. Cork?
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
Actually I wonder what's the best way to solicit local knowledge? Are there Twitterers for every county in Ireland at this stage? Would people follow to a sombre @roaddeaths account?
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@johnnypez one other thing - can you send me the RIP icon please so I can replace the default pointer - eirepreneur@gmail.com
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
@eirepreneur Yeah it's pretty depressing when you get those mails every day for over a year. I found maporama.com to be a good starting point if you can't solicit local knowledge.
I know roaddeaths stream may be sombre but it would quickly show people how often people die. You saw yourself today when those emails start arriving.
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
I was wondering if you can slice and dice the data/analyse? Deaths at noon vs 4am. deaths at an equal time lapse between a certain point (did changes to road do anything).
1 year, 9 months ago by WillKnott
Well the two Garda Press Office emails I've received thus far do give times Will so some basic analysis will be possible for sure. But I don't think I'll be getting much information about road changes or conditions though.
BTW the @roaddeaths account has now been setup on Twitter and I'm hoping it will get a volunteer follower per county to help pinpoint local accidents.
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur
I've included the time in each description in the KML files, those times are the time of the incident as reported by the Gardai. So it should be possible to break them down.
1 year, 9 months ago by johnnypez
@WillKnott Will King of OpenGeo.net massaged the 2007 data to produce this timestamped KML - http://eirepreneur.blogs.com/roaddeaths2007.kml
I used a time window of 4 days and slowed the animation right down. Watch how the days leading up to Paddy's weekend are relatively quiet and then the yellow tags splatter (sorry, but that's the only word for it) the page around the 17th. Very sad.
1 year, 9 months ago by EirePreneur